Jennifer Escalona tells it like it is
I recently wrote several posts about my venture writing for Examiner.com. At the time I was interested in the chance to get local press (like a fellow Atlanta Examiner frequently did) and to write small posts every day about a topic on my niche. I’m sorry to say, though, that with the site’s traffic and their approximately .01 per hit pay rate, I was unable to justify continuing to write for them when higher paying clients were waiting in the wings for my time. So from now on, I’m writing Examiner.com off as a non-source of income for freelance writers – or at least for “Green Business” writers such as myself.
The sad thing is, I blogged about Examiner.com back in the day and told some of you guys that I thought it could be a good opportunity. If you had good luck with it, more power to you. As for me, I’m eating my words right now. It just didn’t work for me. Consider this my mea culpa.
But in the spirit of offering solutions instead of complaining about problems, I bring you 5 Alternatives to Writing for Examiner.com. (Keep in mind, you are not going to get rich, and I don’t suggest that, if you are bent on becoming a full time writer, you rely on sites like the ones listed below for your income.)
Demand Studios – In my opinion, Demand Studios is one of the best sites a freelance writer can work for to make quick cash or build a portfolio (possibly an odd portfolio – but I’ll get to that in a moment) when they are just starting out. You have to apply with a writing sample or two to be accepted, but when you are, you can start writing immediately. You are given article titles in a variety of styles and formats. I prefer the About articles or Fact Sheets. About articles are $15 each and, unless you picked a topic you know nothing about, you can generally write two in an hour. Fact Sheets are $5 each and you can probably finish four to an hour (again, unless you pick something you know nothing about.)
Articles written for Demand go to sites like eHow and you do get a byline. Be sure the writing is good, accurate and by all means not plagiarized (you would never do that would you? If you would, stop reading this blog right now! This isn’t for you!) because an editor will be checking it over. Demand Studios pays weekly and can be a great source of income for those starting out. Keep in mind though, before you have ideas of riches, that you are only allowed to have 10 articles “checked out” at one time and the editing process can be slow. Also, some days the topics are just terrible. Do you really want to write about catalytic converters?
BrightHub – BrightHub bills itself as a science and technology hub, so if you are interested in any scienc-y subject, from green living to biology to video games, then you can probably find a place on BrightHub. Unlike Demand Studios, Bright Hub editors work directly with writers in order to set up a monthly editorial calendar. You will likely get to choose the contents of your 400-500 word articles, but sometimes editors give out a long list of articles for writers to choose from.
The BrightHub article submission process can be a little harrowing. You are expected to learn about meta tags and keywords, etc. Chances are though, if you are a young freelancer starting out in this day and age, you’ve already run into some SEO writing, so this should be fairly common sense.
Like Demand Studios, BrightHub is a way for young, hungry freelancers to make real money that does not rely on page views. The site pays around the middle of the month after your article is submitted.
Sample Bright Hub Article (And a pretty interesting one, too.)
Constant Content – Constant Content works with writers in two ways. First, it simply acts as a marketplace for you to sell your writing. For example, say a client ordered some articles but, for whatever reason, turned out not to need them and you retained the rights to them. You, clearly, don’t need any articles on hardwood flooring, but you can put them on Constant Content and see if someone who does happens to come along. I have not tried that method, so I can’t tell you if it works or not. The second way that writers can work with Constant Content is to respond to request for content. People with websites will ask for say, an article on green landscaping, and then you write it, set a price, and hope that they buy it. Of course, if they don’t buy it, it then goes into the pool for other content connoisseurs to purchase.
What’s great about Constant Content is that you don’t have to sell full rights to your article if you don’t want to. You can sell either Usage rights (i.e. they get to use it, you get to keep selling it), Unique Rights (your byline stays on it, you no longer get to sell it), or Full Rights (you get no byline and no more rights to the article. Essentially, it’s theirs.) Depending on how attached to the article you are, you get to make the call. Also, you set the price for the article, but Constant Content gets a cut, so factor that in when deciding on pricing.
And apparently in the day and age of the internet, no blog post is complete without pandering. I hate to do this kind of thing, but if you decide to use Constant Content, I’d love if you used my referral link.
Associated Content – I haven’t used Associated Content very much, but from what I recall, it is much like Constant Content in that you can write your own articles or claim an assignment. The money making scheme is a little obtuse, so I’ll just quote their FAQ :
“We offer Upfront Payments ranging from $1 to $20 for certain types of content. All of the content you publish can earn you money via Performance Payments, which currently pays a baseline PPM™ rate of $1.50 for every one thousand page views it receives.”
So basically, if the article is good, you will sell it and then get bonuses as it gets hits. They also pay daily. So if you are in a hurry and have some hot content to get off your hands, AC may just be the place for you. There are two types of rights you can allow – Exclusive (they keep it, it’s not yours anymore) and Non-Exclusive (you can sell it again.) I read somewhere recently that AC is only offering from $3 to $7 for new articles (instead of the up to $20 listed in their FAQ), so keep that in mind before heavily investing your time. On the other hand, if you have a lot of article ideas about a favorite topic and don’t want to wait for a buyer to come surfing by on Constant Content, you may prefer the upfront payment option of AC.
TextBroker – This is the only site on this list that I have not personally used. For a more complete look at the site, I suggest this Textbroker review.
Like I said, Examiner.com didn’t pay nearly enough to justify the time I was putting into it. Has anybody had better luck with that site? How about any of the sites listed above? Let us know in the comments!
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26 Responses to 5 (Paying) Alternatives to Writing for Examiner.com
Karen Eisenbraun
June 17th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Hi Jenn, don’t know if you are aware but Demand Studios recently changed their policies so that articles that are under review no longer count towards your limit. That means as soon as you submit an article, you can claim another! This is a really great update that will allow writers to work as much as they want. They are also in the process of making other changes, like allowing writers to see their quality score and have more direct content with editors.
Oh, and I also write for Examiner, but I went into it knowing it wouldn’t be a big money maker. I mainly view it as an opportunity to learn more about a topic that I’m interested in (yoga) … and maybe get some free yoga classes in the process! : )
Jenn Escalona
June 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Hi Karen, I wasn’t aware of that change re: Demand Studios at all. That’s awesome! Now people really could make a big chunk of income on Demand if they set their minds to it.
That’s how I went into Examiner.com, too. I already keep up with the Green and Sustainability scene in Atlanta and thought, “Why not make some money from it?” But as I got busier with my other clients, I found it harder and harder to justify the two or three hours per week it took me to update Examiner. I’ve hard raves and horror stories about Examiner. I hope some people are finding it valuable.
For example, I know some people really are getting mainstream media coverage. That could be a huge boost to your reputation and make the effort worth it.
jane
June 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
My experience with Examiner.com was that in the preliminary stages of signing up, they wanted way too much personal information. For instance , the contract they wanted me to sign said that my credit would be checked during the process. Why? When I asked my contact at Examiner.com, they told me, “Oh, the company we use does that as well, but they never do it for this job.”Well, a contract is a contract and by signing it, I would have been giving them permission to pull my credit history. No way. I went no further with Examiner.com
Jenn Escalona
June 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Hi Jane, I totally went all the way and let them check my background. (For me, it was a criminal background check and not a credit check.) I was interested in mainstream media opportunities and guessed that they simply didn’t want people with criminal histories possibly representing the site.
Still, you are right. It is a invasive for the pay and for what it is. I had to have a criminal background check when I tutored high school kids, but none of my mainstream journalism jobs ever required them.
jane
June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Jenn,
Yep, I was ok with the criminal background check. But saw no reason to nose around in my credit history…..or that of my spouse, since that would presumably come up , as well.
I,too, was looking for mainstream opportunities, and although the pay was meager, the visibility may have been what I originally wanted. The price was just to high. Contracts are binding and my signature would have given approval for the check.
There are more things out there. Thanks for the tips.
Jenn Escalona
June 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Well, let’s just be thankful I’m out of it and you never got into it! I agree – why bring my husband into this?
Have you tried Demand or any of the other suggestions in this post yet? I highly recommend Demand, Bright Hub and Constant Content and have heard good things about the other two.
Vanessa
June 18th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I am one of those suckers who took Jenn’s advice and started writing for examiner (he he, just joshin’ jenn!), and while it’s not a lot of money, it’s good exposure for the moment. Once I get some more clients, I’ll probably let it go. In the meantime, I’m amusing myself by trying to mention monkeys in as many posts as possible (see: http://www.examiner.com/x-11767-Atlanta-Rock-Climbing-Examiner~y2009m6d17-Finding-the-right-climbing-shoe).
I also write for Demand Studios, and it is the Web site that has earned me the most money, consistently, so far! I like the How To articles. I have 2 dogs, so I write all the articles I can find on dogs. I can complete a How To article in about an hour, and the flat fee is $15.
Demand also has Revenue Share articles, where you only get paid according to how much traffic your article gets. At the moment, Revenue Share seems to yield less than examiner, but we shall see…
Jenn Escalona
June 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I know, right? Sorry, V. On the other hand, if you’re just starting out, Examiner may be a good way to build a portfolio fast. Let me know how it goes? Have you tried Constant Content or any of the others yet? What do you think?
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Show Me the Money
August 12th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Thanks for all the info! Demand Studios sounds good. I know everyone has different experiences, especially depending on the popularity and scope of their topic, but I’m not quite sure examiner.com is sustainable for the masses.
Writing for page views only is tough enough, but they have many topics that overlap and keep adding more topics and neighborhoods. For example, one city has budget grocery, budget meals, specialty grocery and 2 grocery examiners. Regional/niche/first hand experience is usually valuable (think about.com and print), but I’ve seen experienced web writers who earn less than $1 per article.
Can you still log in and maintain your residuals or did you lose them when you quit writing for examiner?
Jenn Escalona
August 13th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Hi there, Show Me. I agree – Examiner.com is trying to expand too much and it seems like the writers lose. I’m still watching a couple of the more prolific “Examiners” to see if they stick with it or decide to give it up, especially as the turf fragments.
As for claiming residuals, it’s funny you should ask. I wrote them an email saying I no longer wanted to write for them, but I still get mailing list mailings and the other day someone used me as a reference! We’ll see if that $50 comes through. (If so, the money I made from referrals will far outweigh any residuals I’ve seen. Which is so very, very sad.)
Thanks for stopping by! I really do recommend Demand Studios. They can be a comfortable supplemental income if you write something you know. Stop back by sometime and tell me how it went, will you?
Tasha
October 9th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Thanks for the info, Jenn. I’ve been writing for Examiner for a few months now and my experience has been similar to yours and many others- a lot of effort for very little pay. I’m now writing for Demand and Constant Content and they seem like a better fit for me. I would urge anyone considering writing for Examiner to be realistic about their goals. Most of the Examiners who make money on the site have celebrity beats and post numerous times per day. Thus, the content isn’t exactly the highest quality. In my opinion, this hurts the credibility of the good writers on the site, as well as the site itself. I’m not sure Examiner has a future if it continues its current model.
Jenn Escalona
October 10th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Hi Tasha, thanks for stopping by and sharing your story! I’ve given up on Examiner.com for good now, and am making a lot more money with strictly private clients with a little Demand Studios mixed in from time to time.
As for your point about how Examiner may not have a future, I agree. And even if it does have a future, it’s probably not a future as a reliable source for local information. After all, since pay is so low, the quality of writing will continue to degenerate as people chase the almighty buck, and then nobody will be happy. I’m taking my couple of months with Examiner.com as a learning experience and moving on to greener pastures!
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Rachel
October 21st, 2009 at 11:29 am
Count me in as another writer that swallowed the Examiner story hook line and sinker. They only page page views and as most of my work was showing up WAY down on Google search when, for other websites I write for, my work was showing up on page 1, there’s just no money to be made there.
With a fair few articles posted in a week, I’d made the astounding sum of $4.87. Amazing! I struggled with it for a few more weeks and gave up. For serious writers who actually want to make money, Examiner.com is CRAP.
Jenn Escalona
October 21st, 2009 at 11:33 am
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story, Rachel. It sounds like you and I had an almost identical experience. It’s funny that you mention it – just this week I received a ” We miss you!” email from Examiner. I’m glad I was able to tell it “Pfft. I don’t miss you,” and delete it out of hand.
If you don’t mind my asking, what alternatives did you turn to after you gave up on Examiner.com?
Maria
April 15th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Hey I just came across this post and I was wondering, did you delete your Examiner account or did you just stop posting? I couldn’t find a way to delete mine, but I don’t think I’m going to post there anymore.
Jenn Escalona
April 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Hi Maria,
I couldn’t find a way to delete my Examiner either. But I did unsubscribe from their mailing list, which – if I recall – they say should get you off their lists. Good luck in your quest!
Victoria Trix
April 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I just started writing for examiner.com yesterday so I honestly can not give an opinion either way. However building up residual income takes time and this is what examiner will be for me. So many people have the same complaint about hubpages but after several months of posting 1-2 articles a week on hubpages I’m now earning a decent amount for what now takes me about 2 hours per week to do.
I’m going to stick it out with examiner for a few months and see how it works out for me. If nothing else it will be a nice link to toss into my profile.
Christina Crowe
May 9th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
I was reading reviews on Examiner a while back, but never really got into it. At the moment, I was writing for eHow and building my article library there. This was before eHow changed their writing platform to Demand Studios (which was alright for me, since I was already a member of Demand Studios).
Out of the list, I’ve tried Demand Studios, Constant Content, and Associated Content. So far, I’ve mad the most with Demand Studios, though writing for them can be a pain due to their strict copy editors.
Writing for Constant Content was alright. At first I would just try to sell my articles, though none of them did sell. I believe I wrote about 6 of them. When none were selling, I ended up just doing requests and submitting articles to potential buyers. I made some money from that, though I don’t like the big money cut. Constant Content receives almost half of the money you’re supposed to make, so it can be discouraging.
I’ve had the worst experience with Associated Content, mainly because the upfront pay you receive is way too low per article. I get $2 per article submitted and I’m making pennies from the page views. It’s not worth the time spent in my opinion.
I haven’t tried BrightHub, though it sounds interesting. I might give it a go sometime in the near future.
Christina
Jenn Escalona
May 10th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Hi Christina,
To be honest, I don’t write for any of these guys anymore. I was, thankfully, able to build my client list up enough that now I make money at my billable rate and don’t have to write for any of these guys. That’s not to say that I didn’t just recommend Demand Studios to a friend last week. She’s a great writer who has a byline on many text books, but due to personal issues, her life is so crazy right now that keeping and maintaining regular clients would be a real challenge. While Demand Studios doesn’t pay the rate she could command elsewhere, it is a good stopgap for her to make some extra cash and maybe even get a few more clips in her specialty, education.
If you’re serious about building a writing business – which I can tell from your other comments here at Life and Times that you are – I highly recommend looking for private clients. But that doesn’t meant that sites like Demand can’t be fabulous stopgaps for the slow times. Like I always tell people, I made $15k my first year freelancing. I don’t care how wonderfully you write, its going to take awhile to get established, and sites like Demand can mean the difference between Ramen and er… chicken for dinner.
Christina Crowe
May 10th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Demand Studios has been the best opportunity for me so far (mainly because the earnings are a lot higher than the others).
But yes, I hope to be an accomplished freelance writer in the years to come. I’m mainly considering in specializing in content writing, copy editing, and copywriting, as well as maintaining my blogs. Right now I’m focusing on making a portfolio website before I try finding clients. I’ve been following your Quick and Dirty Guide to Landing Freelance Writing Jobs. I’m still on part one, but at least I’ve figured out what I want to specialize in.
But, I have a few questions that hopefully you can help me with. Do you have an English degree and are English degrees necessary to get clients? How long did it take you when just starting out to make full-time income as a freelance writer (or, rather, enough money to pay the bills)? And, is it really necessary in some cases to speak to clients on the phone? I’m a little shaky about the last bit. Any other advice would help a great deal.
Thanks again!
Jenn Escalona
May 11th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Hi Christina,
As for your questions, nope, an English degree isn’t necessary. (I have a history degree.) You can be a good writer no matter what you majored in. One of the best writers I know didn’t even go to college! Still, she’s an awesome writer and is well educated in other whats, and that’s really what it takes.
I started making full-time income after about a year. And that still was about what I had made at an entry level corporate job. After about two years though, I was doing very well. Substantially better than most communications corporate jobs pay here in Atlanta.
Some people get away with never talking to clients on the phone, but I recommend that you do. People trust people they’ve seen or talked to more than they trust someone who’s just words on a screen. And having your clients trust and like you is very important. Of course, whether you talk to them or not is up to you. I rarely talk to my clients on the phone, but it does happen. You should also put your phone number in your email signature in case someone needs to get in touch with you in a hurry!
Christina Crowe
May 12th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Wonderful! I was worried if not having an English degree would hurt my chances. I’ll try the telephone tactic. Thanks again for your support!
Rusty Haines
November 14th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I am so glad I came across your posts.
I was just recently accepted as an Examiner, but didn’t really feel like it was a good decision. I was jumping at any writing jobs that came up.
Thanks for the tips. I’ll definitely take a look at some of the sites you’ve recommended.
Jenn Escalona
November 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Hi Rusty,
I’m glad I could be the guinea pig on this one. I really just felt that it didn’t offer fair compensation. I do highly recommend starting your own blog or website about your passion rather than sort of turning your passion over to a corporation that isn’t even going to pay you very well! Now, your blog or platform may never make money (that’s the risk we take!) but at least you own it, and you can often leverage that passion into writing opportunities of other stripes – like blogging or copywriting for a company that markets to people who share your passion. Good luck!